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Helen Fakher

How do I find suppliers for these security chips for implant into humans. I am interested to contact them. Thank you.


I think the same company made a presentation in town here. The idea was that they would implant these in the arms of individuals with mental retardation (and other people that were non-communicative regarding health issues, etc.) and then the emdical systems would buy into the system with scanners.

So when John or Sue got hurt and were rushed to the local hospital the attending person could scan them, get a code number (supposedly that is all that is on the chip), call an 800 number and acccess the individuals medical history. Potentially a life saving device.

Main problem was they wanted to implant it into people that could not provide implied consent.

Additionally - manufacturers are imbedding similar "seeds" into the seems of blue jeans and other clothing items. It is then tracked from the factory to warehouse, up, down and across the supply chain. Recorded when the store takes possession plus as the unsuspecting buyer is walking around the store with it in his/her cart it is developing data as to what pruchasers of those jeans also like. When you pay it deducts it from the inventory. If you use a credit card they put your purchase info in to the data bank. If you steel the jeans it may catch you going out the door or the enxt time you wear them into the store.

I know 1984 was 22 years ago but sahdes of 1984 (the book!)

Bruce Jones

I am ready for the brain to computer implants, not because I am too lazy to type at my keyboard or push my mouse around, but because I believe that only through experiencing the proof of this technology can I expect to know how to teach quadrapalegics and other limb-loss students (for whom my subject (CAD) holds so much potential) to be productive again through the application of this technology.

On the other hand I agree that the potential abuses of the widespread use of implant-ID technology outweighs the good. If the implant is valuable enough for someone to cut your arm off for, some nutcase will do it. We have inner city sociopaths killing each other over sneakers now: no difference.

Aaron Donsky

Thanks for the reference in your weblog, Bill. The only negative that I have found to not having a car is I seem to wearing out my shoes more often and shoe repair guys are getting more and more difficult to find. Is that a skill area with future potential or will it disappear as we move further into the 21st century.

Danny Kershen

Let's talk about how criminals might minipulate this type thing. If the implant has any value, then we will see a rash of crimes to people including cutting out the chip or worse, cutting off the body part it is implanted in. Technology is all about convenience. It is easier and more convenient to wash clothes in a washing machine then by hand. Things are so easy now that we have problems with obese kids who have personal trainers to get any physical activity. In our rush for convenience, what consequences will individuals and society suffer?


I would love the idea of being free from my purse. However, I am concerned about what other freedoms I might be giving up.


The whole concept frightens me. I agree with Diedrick, no one needs to know that much about me. I think everyone is entitled to some privacy.

Susan Kilborn

Am considering it seriously. Have a condition known as hydrocephalus, but treated with shunt placement. Great most of the time, but when shunt malfunctions I don't know where, who I am or what I am doing. If I had a chip placed under the skin, I could be located, right? Where can I have one put under the skin?

Rachael Vause

Science fiction does indeed point to many aspects of the actual future. Each time I see crowds of commuters chatting on cell phones I'm reminded of Bradbury's story “The Murderer”. When first I heard of Donelson and his ambition for every human to be connected to the World Wide Web and to each other through brain implants, I immediately related it to “Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex”. Mankind's fear of technology will, like other fears, eventually subside as technology becomes a greater part of society. Criminals are criminals and theft is theft. No matter how society or technology changes, criminals adapt and security measures are subsequently upgraded.

Bill Draves

Terry, what a great conversation here! I love all the different ideas and perspectives.

To respond to your question, I'm neutral. I don't have an opinion right now either way.

What I DO have an opinion about, and it relates to the discussion, is information privacy. As information about ourselves becomes more public, we have to have laws and protections so that others cannot "do" anything with that information.

Thanks for asking Terry. Keep up the great discussion guys!

Terry Newman

I'm afraid what the "George Bush's" of the world would do with this in the name of terrorism. Bill, I'd like to hear what you think.


I'm not quite ready to take the plunge (or the needle =:^) just yet, but I'm close. I agree that there are security concerns and I don't care for the idea of anyone to be able to track my each and every move. However, with the wide deployment of digital cameras, cell phones, PDAs, GPS transponders, etc., that is becoming a mute point.

The enabling technology for this type of device will be the ability to select when and where it is readable and how much and what type of information is transmitted. If I could select, say, 'payment informatin' at a point of sale, or 'personal id/security code' at the ATM, airline boarding gate or my house door, and 'Off/No Broadcast' the rest of the time, I'd certainly have it done

Daniel Bednar

If you want to find out where technology is heading, read more science fiction. Asimov accurately predicted voice-recognition computers in his _Foundation_ series. These idea of these types of implantable microchips has been around for quite a long time. As for this implementation, I wouldn't consider it without more privacy protections in place. Imagine identity theft with one of these.


No thanks! I want to be able to turn off any tracking that I have personal control over. This would create a new market for identity theft (and painful!).

Terry Newman

I'm totally against it. No one needs to know that much about me. A company could use that information against me in hiring simply by scanning me when I walk in the door. The government can find out where I go and what I do at any minute? Let's not encourage "Big Brother"


I'm up for it.

All the arguments people bring up against this technology are just as valid with current id and credit cards. (forgery - tracking by the government)

it wouldn't make a difference for our security, but this chip would be a lot easier to use, and next to impossible to lose.

Erik Holden

Sign me up. I love this idea.
Those people who fear the government or other organizations being able to track them through this chip may be right in their concern, but hello, we are tracked in thousands of ways by a multitude of organizations every day of our lives. Cameras in public, chips in cell phones, credit cards, cookies, the list goes on...

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